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rangers1873
12.03.2007, 00:02
Some pics from today. C'mon the Gers so glad we beat the bastards today :D
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00043.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00042.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00041.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00040-1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00039-1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00038.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00037-1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00036.jpg
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1269/dsc00253wk3.jpg


Some video's
Ka Ka!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adDmUDW3hQA

Build My Gallows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJZDfgc5aw

All Together Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_UNL3D8WEY

Who Sh*gged All the Boys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmR9Ty8hcVU

No Tims in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDJw8JrQQQ

Before the Game (as players come out)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RYMFVjfx0I

Big Jock Knew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU1LecT2RyI

Fat Guy on The Pitch at Half Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMU3XoCfkrU

Fathers Advice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxJVEPqH-Es

The Bouncy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK0jCg6Zeis

We are the People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp86zMHwzVk

Rule Britannia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZehXAobGLjQ

After Full Time Whistle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVH9eihzI5w

We Love You Rangers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cryTlZ1Z9Ek

No Tims in Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF-JnWBsdAs

New CDL banner

Dick Brave
12.03.2007, 05:12
Bouncy, Bouncy, Bouncy, Bouncy, shalalala!!!
Excellent stuff. THX!!!

rangers1873
12.03.2007, 14:41
The roar when the Gers scored

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se7dfy8HwjE&eurl=

just need to beat Aberdeen next week now and Osasuna during the week and the season will be a lot better. Carsten will be over for the match as well.

Rangers and HSV drinking crew

Lecavalier
12.03.2007, 17:18
http://www.zshare.net/download/ehiogu0-1vsceltic-zip.html

The Goal from Ehiogu !

Swansea
12.03.2007, 19:02
Great pics mate, good stuff!

juliotyr1887
13.03.2007, 12:58
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/G-Dub106/DSC00039-1.jpg

what is the guy in the right corner doing?

THAT IS SOOO TYPICAL....!!!

Swansea
13.03.2007, 13:16
If it is SOOOO typical then wheres the rest of the supporters doing it?

juliotyr1887
13.03.2007, 14:21
If it is SOOOO typical then wheres the rest of the supporters doing it?

no no... i wanna say it is so typical that u can find always a few stupid in the rangers corner...

rangers1873
13.03.2007, 14:27
no no... i wanna say it is so typical that u can find always a few stupid in the rangers corner...

You may find a few stupid but that's better than the 51,000 on either side of them :D

rangers1873
13.03.2007, 14:29
Swansea does juliotyr1887 know that Big Jock Knew

OfTheSpeed23
13.03.2007, 19:39
What does that mean anyway "Big Jock Knew"?

rangers1873
13.03.2007, 20:31
You might have or you not have heard about the child abuse at Celtic many years ago. When it was first discovered by the then Manager Jock Stein he sacked the boys club coach who was abusing the children but he did not tell anyone about it meaning that Torbett could go on for many years abusing kids. Stein is hailed as a hero in this country and they are even trying to get him a knighthood (funny that after all they hate the Royals) even though he knew this was going on and said nothing about it. In my book he is just as bad as the abuser as they were allowed to continue and even went back to the club when he died.

At least Jock Stein can rot with the fact that he never told anyone to protect the name of Celtic and they never thanked him for it. He was given a job as a pools agent rather than a place on the board. You would think Celtic's greatest manager would have any bloody job he wanted but then again I’m sure the fact he was Protestant had nothing to do with it what so ever.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/k.tole/Celtic%20Stats%201996-1997/Celtic%20Boys%20Club.PDF

juliotyr1887
13.03.2007, 20:38
What does that mean anyway "Big Jock Knew"?


Big Jock Knew is bullshit.

The hunscum talk that the legendary Jock Stein (ex manager celtic) has known about a paedophile skandal.
bla bla bla... it´s always if the fascist come together and talk about their litte penis problem

rangers1873
13.03.2007, 20:57
haha spoken like a true MOPE.

It's all lies i tell ye, made up by the Mason's in their spare time to think up ways of getting rid of Celtic. Fact don't lie juliotyr1887 even Billy McNeil admitted in a court of law that Stein knew.

So who's lying then?


Altogether ''Oh Big Jock Knew, Oh Big Jock Knew, Oh Big Jock Knew, Og Big Jock Knew''

Swansea
13.03.2007, 21:41
What does that mean anyway "Big Jock Knew"?

Well, if you look at the two posts following your question, you now have to decide which argumentation you want to believe...Comparing relevance of facts and quotations i slightlyyyyy tend to number one, though number two contains a remarkable sense of humour bringing in penis envy into this topic...

rangers1873
13.03.2007, 21:48
Now now Swansea it would not be like be a celtic fan or a big hard antifa follower to back anything up with facts or than Nazi, Bigot, fascist, racist. The 4 word that they feel can settle every argument and i thought it was only the far right followers who are brain dead lol

rangers1873
14.03.2007, 00:18
http://i10.tinypic.com/3y5h37a.jpg
http://excoboard.com/forums/5223/user/19457/235017.gif
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1184/nazipopebyktrcoyoteuk3.jpg

OfTheSpeed23
14.03.2007, 01:08
Do we really need to see that type of crap on here, honestly? :rolleyes:

Well, if you look at the two posts following your question, you now have to decide which argumentation you want to believe...Comparing relevance of facts and quotations i slightlyyyyy tend to number one, though number two contains a remarkable sense of humour bringing in penis envy into this topic...

I wish I never bothered asking. Only wanted a simple answer, not a war to break out between two Scottish club fans on a German club fan site...

Dr. Spielchen
14.03.2007, 02:40
Ah, i´ve heard about that child-abuse at celtic a few years ago, just didn´t know that there´s an acronym for it. Thanks for sharing information which can´t be found on wikipedia. :D

juliotyr1887
14.03.2007, 08:35
By Talman
One of the most distasteful activities of rangers fans in recent times has to be their ‘Big Jock Knew” campaign. This is a reference to the Celtic Boys Club child abuse case. The contention of the huns is that Celtic’s legendary European Cup winning manager was complicit in this scandal because they claim that he knew what was going on at the boys club and turned a blind eye to it.
Evidence would suggest that not only is this untrue, but in fact when Stein did find out that allegations were being made against boys club officials he took matters into his own hands and ran the alleged offenders out of Parkhead. This, however, has not prevented some rangers fans from mounting a sick campaign that includes posters and T-shirts bearing Stein’s image alongside the slogan ‘Big Jock Knew’.
For people that claim to be exposing hypocrisy' and in pursuit of the 'truth', there's a distinct lack of understanding, sympathy for, or empathy with, the victims of such abuse. In fact, the pleasure that they seem to derive from their sad little campaign is quite weird and perverse in itself.
This vile campaign was organised through the internet forums of certain hunzines yet not a word about it was printed in any of the newspapers? For a press that are only too willing to devour any bad news about the “Old Firm” as they like to call it, their silence was deafening.
Make no mistake, the sexual abuse at Celtic Boys Club was an outrageous abuse of trust and those responsible for it deserve maximum punishment for their crimes. What's worse is that Celtic are still prepared to do business with, and accept sponsorship and adverts from, the Trophy Centre which is partowned by the man who was convicted of the sexual abuse.
When you consider the fact that the very name of any rebel music bands and their gigs are refused advertising space in any official Celtic publications, isn't it an outrage that the company partowned by a convicted paedophile who ruined the lives of many young kids that passed through the Boys Club is still welcome at Celtic Park?
It was revealed during the trial that Jock Stein had physically confronted one of the alleged abusers when allegations were reported to him. It was said that he physically battered the pervert and ran him off the premises
warning him never to return to Celtic Park. After Stein's departure from the club however the man was allowed to return to a position with the Boys Club.
The thinking is that there was more than one abuser at work and that in order for it the abuse to have continued over so many years they covered for each other. The original allegations were made against two officials in the Boys Club but the charges against the other were dropped due to insufficient evidence. A number of the boys that were abused who are now grown men and who years later are still suffering the psychological effects
of the abuse were said to be too traumatised by the ordeal and refused to appear in court for fear of being further stigmatised.
The issue about what Jock Stein did or did not know is immaterial. Even in the 1970's there was less understanding of sexual abuse generally in society. Stein probably thought that giving Torbett a good doin' and running him off the premises was enough to put the fear of God into him and end the matter.
Stein was wrong, but there certainly appeared to be no intention on his part for the abuse to be allowed to continue or to be repeated later. Far from it. In fact, it would appear that Big Jock's continued presence at the club acted as a deterrent to the abusers. It was only with Stein's departure that Torbett was once again able to gain access to the club and it's youth structures.
This isn't the first time that TAL has written about this case. In fact we were the only Celtic publication at the time, official or unofficial, to make any serious comment or analysis about what happened in the Celtic Boys Club.
The folk at certain scumzines also know this to be the case, but prefer to pursue a somewhat sick fantasy of their own that appears to revel in the abuse of children while at the same time purporting to be against it.

Quelle: TAL

rangers1873
14.03.2007, 08:52
Do we really need to see that type of crap on here, honestly? :rolleyes:



I wish I never bothered asking. Only wanted a simple answer, not a war to break out between two Scottish club fans on a German club fan site...

No offence made but you did ask, I have kept all my posts about Rangers down to almost nothing as I understand that this is a HSV forum (don't worry I get asked the same questions on the Rangers forums as to why I keep posting about HSV). 99% of the people I have met from HSV has an interest in Rangers and that is a lot of people that I have met when over in Hamburg. If me posting stuff about Rangers gets them the information that they want about Rangers then im more than happy to do so but understand that not all have a liking of Rangers, you even get some idiots who want to follow Celtic.

This week was the Derby and it is something that has an interest of man in the world and I felt as though that could merit me making a post. If you don't want to read about Rangers you don't have to click on the Rangers posts as it's not if the English speaking HSV fans are clogging up the English forum with posts of what is happening.

If I come on here and have to listen to HSV fans use the tactic that Celtic and St Pauli use by calling people Nazi's, fascist, racist or what ever crap they want to spout about that day without any evidence. I will defend my club the same way I defend HSV when any Celtic talk rubbish about them, the same club that some HSV would like support have a notion that everyone of you guys are Goose stepping Nazi's. Even some went as far as saying HH in the Chosen Few away banner stands for Hiel Hitler.

I'm not here to get anyone to support Rangers as you then get people supporting you for the wrong reasons and I don't like arse lickers (we tend to let them support Celtic) and im happy with the guys who support Rangers.

End of rant

rangers1873
14.03.2007, 09:06
Mate i wouldn't use TAL as source of evidence. I'm sure you would like the issue that they describe all HSV fans as Nazi's and have praise for the Celtic Casual who stabbed the HSV lad when they last played eh.

The issue about what Jock Stein did or did not know is immaterial. Even in the 1970's there was less understanding of sexual abuse generally in society. Stein probably thought that giving Torbett a good doin' and running him off the premises was enough to put the fear of God into him and end the matter.


The above quote shows that they are excusing the fact that he never told authorities that Stein knew what was happening. No Rangers fans disputes that Stein chased him from Celtic Park but

1: Why did he not tell the Police meaning that the abusers would not be allowed to continue?

2: Did he tell other's at Celtic what was happening as if he did why did they allow the abusers to return to the club?

It's funny that TAL try and excuse it due to it being in the 70's.

Swansea
14.03.2007, 09:41
Do we really need to see that type of crap on here, honestly? :rolleyes:



I wish I never bothered asking. Only wanted a simple answer, not a war to break out between two Scottish club fans on a German club fan site...

Don`t worry, war broke out long before...Nobody wants to see stuff like that, but I just dont like myself being called a fascist by a prejudiced rhebel without a clue...

juliotyr1887
14.03.2007, 10:26
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Oglaich/loreto.jpg

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/feb2006/cfaf_oconnell_street.jpg

Dr. Spielchen
14.03.2007, 10:26
Don`t worry, war broke out long before...
Don´t mention the war! :D

juliotyr1887
14.03.2007, 10:50
Mate i wouldn't use TAL as source of evidence. I'm sure you would like the issue that they describe all HSV fans as Nazi's and have praise for the Celtic Casual who stabbed the HSV lad when they last played eh.



Look! it ís no secret, that u can find fascist at the corner of hsv/rangers...

I don´t say all of them are fascist, but i hate facist... it dosent mather wich club they support... or wich rellgion they have... if its a celtic supporter i dont like him... if its a ac milan supporter i dont like him...

But u can see that always a few of rangers fans, can not show a good behaviour (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=behaviour)...
The press tells (they dont always lie!)... even other scotish fans are not enthusiastic (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=enthusiastic) about the behaviour of rangers fans (look in the forum of the hearts).




I dont like theese "hardcore" fans who telling lies/speculations about John Stock or what else...

He is uncondemned (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=uncondemned) !!!

OfTheSpeed23
14.03.2007, 10:57
No offence made but you did ask, I have kept all my posts about Rangers down to almost nothing as I understand that this is a HSV forum (don't worry I get asked the same questions on the Rangers forums as to why I keep posting about HSV). 99% of the people I have met from HSV has an interest in Rangers and that is a lot of people that I have met when over in Hamburg. If me posting stuff about Rangers gets them the information that they want about Rangers then im more than happy to do so but understand that not all have a liking of Rangers, you even get some idiots who want to follow Celtic.

This week was the Derby and it is something that has an interest of man in the world and I felt as though that could merit me making a post. If you don't want to read about Rangers you don't have to click on the Rangers posts as it's not if the English speaking HSV fans are clogging up the English forum with posts of what is happening.

If I come on here and have to listen to HSV fans use the tactic that Celtic and St Pauli use by calling people Nazi's, fascist, racist or what ever crap they want to spout about that day without any evidence. I will defend my club the same way I defend HSV when any Celtic talk rubbish about them, the same club that some HSV would like support have a notion that everyone of you guys are Goose stepping Nazi's. Even some went as far as saying HH in the Chosen Few away banner stands for Hiel Hitler.

I'm not here to get anyone to support Rangers as you then get people supporting you for the wrong reasons and I don't like arse lickers (we tend to let them support Celtic) and im happy with the guys who support Rangers.

End of rant

True, at least you're contributing to the English area of the site and I should have known better than to get involved in something between Rangers and Celtic fans.

I'm just saying that the Nazi and Heil Hitlers pictures were unneccessary, both you and juliotyr1887 are to blame - I'm not just getting at you. I just don't want to see stuff like that posted on here, its not needed and only leads to more trouble. So I'd prefer it if you and juliotyr1887 (I hope you're reading this too) stop with the pictures please. I understand both of you were defending your club and honour, so hopefully you've both got it out of your system. And hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say.

We don't have that many people posting in this area as it is so the last thing that I'd want is for anybody to be at each others throats, reguardless of what team they support other than HSV. Perhaps I'm wasting my time in suggesting that a Rangers and Celtic fan actually get on after what's been posting, but hey it's worth a try.

As I've said before, I've got no interest in Rangers or Celtic or Scottish Football whatsoever. I'm not anti-Scottish football. I'm not one of these English that think that Scottish Football is inferior or pointless. I'm just not interested. Just like I'm not interested in Belgian football or Scandinavian football. I'm also not one of these people to feign interest just to get a discussion going and make you think I'm interested, hence why I haven't really contributed to any of your Rangers threads. But I do understand that you're just providing information for HSV fans that are interested though. I'm just not one of them.

rangers1873
14.03.2007, 11:42
I fully accept what you are saying mate and don't blame you for not having an interest in Rangers or Scottish Football I sometimes wonder why I do but you can;t help what you love eh. Not many like us and I like it that way, as the song goes ''No on Like us, we don't care''.

Anyone who knows me knows I don't bad mouth the scum to get brownie points as it's not my way and I'm always willing to have a constructive argument with any one as long as they can provide facts to back up what they are saying like I have and not just your just a fascist or a racist that is just crap and not constructive at all.

rangers1873
14.03.2007, 11:53
Look! it ís no secret, that u can find fascist at the corner of hsv/rangers...

I don´t say all of them are fascist, but i hate facist... it dosent mather wich club they support... or wich rellgion they have... if its a celtic supporter i dont like him... if its a ac milan supporter i dont like him...

But u can see that always a few of rangers fans, can not show a good behaviour (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=behaviour)...
The press tells (they dont always lie!)... even other scotish fans are not enthusiastic (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=enthusiastic) about the behaviour of rangers fans (look in the forum of the hearts).




I dont like theese "hardcore" fans who telling lies/speculations about John Stock or what else...

He is uncondemned (http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&p=/gQPU.&search=uncondemned) !!!

Again you have avoid any questions I ask you?

What age are you? 12 or something as you don't seem to be able to back up anything you have said with facts.

I have shown facts that Stein did know and did not tell anyone about the abuse. You have just said it was lies.....

I hate fascists as well so we share something in common but along with brain dead fascists I hate brain dead lefties who think the whole world is evil and if you don't agree with them you are a fascist.

We do have an element of fascists in our support and we have the idiots who raise their arms thinking they are doing a Red Hand Salute. They are not fascist they are just to stupid to tie their own shoes never mind have a political thought in their head. You say look at the Hearts forum but guess what the Celtic fans label them fascists as well for the sole reason they hate Celtic and have a Loyalist Support like Rangers.

End of the argument unless you can show me facts that Stein didn't know other than a Celtic fanzine as a true source would have to be from an independant body who will not be biased, didn't you study history.

Dick Brave
14.03.2007, 15:24
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Oglaich/loreto.jpg

http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/feb2006/cfaf_oconnell_street.jpg

This is precisely the kind of Gutmenschentum we need here! I'm impressed!

bountymatze
14.03.2007, 21:29
True, at least you're contributing to the English area of the site and I should have known better than to get involved in something between Rangers and Celtic fans.

I'm just saying that the Nazi and Heil Hitlers pictures were unneccessary, both you and juliotyr1887 are to blame - I'm not just getting at you. I just don't want to see stuff like that posted on here, its not needed and only leads to more trouble. So I'd prefer it if you and juliotyr1887 (I hope you're reading this too) stop with the pictures please. I understand both of you were defending your club and honour, so hopefully you've both got it out of your system. And hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say.

We don't have that many people posting in this area as it is so the last thing that I'd want is for anybody to be at each others throats, reguardless of what team they support other than HSV. Perhaps I'm wasting my time in suggesting that a Rangers and Celtic fan actually get on after what's been posting, but hey it's worth a try.

As I've said before, I've got no interest in Rangers or Celtic or Scottish Football whatsoever. I'm not anti-Scottish football. I'm not one of these English that think that Scottish Football is inferior or pointless. I'm just not interested. Just like I'm not interested in Belgian football or Scandinavian football. I'm also not one of these people to feign interest just to get a discussion going and make you think I'm interested, hence why I haven't really contributed to any of your Rangers threads. But I do understand that you're just providing information for HSV fans that are interested though. I'm just not one of them.
hsvklatsch hsvklatsch hsvklatsch I just wrote the pin in the "problems with english forum" thread, that the level of discussion is higher here...:rolleyes:

I think I have to reconsider my pin again. I always say: Keep politics out of football. Take the "HSV = Nazi; St Pauli = Left wing" nonsense for example: I had a college some years ago beeing so right wing that we disputed almost every lunch break. I do not have to tell, that HE was the Pauli Fan, do I?

But I think the hate between Rangers and Celtic is as big...we will never understand! Because it's also religious, and that's a dangerous thing, if religion is involved...

You see, when I started watching football at the holy ground I believend in all that "hate" stuff myself (it was 1979, and we "hated" Bayern. Werder was just too inumportant, and St Pauli I didn't even know...:p ) And today? Today I just invited our trainee, who is Bayern fan, to watch the game against Milan on Premiere with me...why not?

Well, and this is the last pin I'll write on thís topic. Because I do not know enough about the rangers and celtic to do so...

Dr. Spielchen
15.03.2007, 08:49
hsvklatsch hsvklatsch hsvklatsch I just wrote the pin in the "problems with english forum" thread, that the level of discussion is higher here...:rolleyes:
I think I have to reconsider my pin again.
No need to.
I´m pretty sure everybody here in this forum (maybe except juliotyr) is able to get along well on this topic. ;)

OfTheSpeed23
15.03.2007, 09:12
Agreed.

There really wasn't any trouble until juliotyr showed up :D ;)

Bande22769
15.03.2007, 13:11
Quelle: TAL

Great one!
Quoting a magazine which celebrated some green-white bastards' stabbing attack on HSV sups in 1996 as defending Glasgow against Nazi troops. You're the man buddy...

juliotyr1887
15.03.2007, 14:32
Great one!
Quoting a magazine which celebrated some green-white bastards' stabbing attack on HSV sups in 1996 as defending Glasgow against Nazi troops. You're the man buddy...


:D ups i did it again....

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THE DAILY RECORD – SCOTLAND 'S NEWSPAPER FOR IGNORING BIGOTRY

By Mal Content

Even by the appalling, prejudiced and sickening standards of the Daily Record, Monday's front page is a national disgrace.

On Sunday afternoon the MAJORITY of the 7,500 Rangers fans at the Celtic versus Rangers match at Celtic Park poisoned and polluted Scottish football with their full repertoire of bigoted bile.

The Daily Record's response is a front page headline about Neil Lennon throwing a water bottle at an empty Rangers dugout at the end of the game because the Celtic Captain was furious about losing and had a verbal slanging match with one Celtic fan.

On Sunday the majority of Rangers fans sang sectarian songs, sang eulogising chants about loyalist paramilitary murder squads, sang sickening songs about the Pope and First Minister Jack McConnell's wife and performed their evil and macabre dance to celebrate the killing of Catholics.

Silence from the Daily Record about Rangers fans' bigoted behaviour, no photographs of Rangers fans' vile deeds, but instead the camera zooms in on Neil Lennon!

A huge number of Rangers fans gave their infamous Nazi salutes, which these bigoted scum excuse as ‘Red Hand of Ulster' salutes. There is NO such thing as a Red Hand of Ulster salute, as evidenced by quotes from the loyalist paramilitary murderers the Rangers fans pay homage to.

Some Rangers fans also mocked the death of the Celtic fan in Milan last week.

The Daily Record's response to Rangers fans' obscenities? Focus on a trivial fracas involving Neil Lennon!

AND, worst of all, hundreds of Rangers fans performed a vile ‘airplane imitation' to taunt Celtic's Japanese midfielder Shunsuke Nakamura and simultaneously desecrate the graves and ridicule the deaths of hundreds of thousands of victims of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombs.

How sick in the head do you have to be to perform such a vile act?

Well, as sick in the head as those in the media who choose to ignore such barbaric behaviour from Rangers fans, who turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to it and who publish not a word about the sickening scene of Naka taking a corner kick with a backdrop of scum pretending to be airplanes. Instead these apologists for bigotry highlight a trivial incident involving Neil Lennon!

Compare and contrast this morning's Record headline with the one of autumn 2001 when, in the morning after a Celtic v Rangers match at Ibrox, the Daily Record's front page headline concerned ONE moronic Celtic fan who taunted Rangers' Claudio Reyna with an airplane gesture. This eejit was hounded by the Record for days afterwards, and even when the fact that he was mentally handicapped came to light, the Record still pursued him with vigour.

Hundreds of Rangers fans taunt Naka with an equally obscene act of barbarism and not a word from the Daily Record!

The Scottish media, and that includes the Daily Record, have a responsibility to publish the truth, but instead today's Record attempts to airbrush history to suit the Record's agenda. Hitler and Stalin would be proud of such a press cover up.

Scotland's sectarian shame – the Daily Record is part of the problem and is not part of the solution.

Shame on them!

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A Policemans view of Sundays game
Taken from Sc0tsman's post on KerryDaleStreet

This was posted on a Rankers forum, not FF by an on duty officer
and has fairly ruffled a few feathers within the Fascist ranks



I have previously agreed with some of the issues the rangers supporters trust (RST) has raised in the past. However, the Trust is onto plums with their latest blowhard effort. Whoever thinks up the articles ought to be slightly more diplomatic and structured in their approach, and prudent in their own investigation into complaints such as those they have received about the Police on Sunday. Unfortunately they have not been on this occasion.

Claims of two-tier policing and an anti-Rangers agenda from the Police smack of the paranoia traditionally eminating from Celtic fans. As a cop myself, I am privy to information the RST clearly isn't. I'm sure if they are reading this, they will understand I can only say so much here, and what I do say is my own opinion and not that of my employer.

First and foremost, the Strathclyde Police policy is to remove prohibited flags only. That does not mean an ordinary union jack or anything displaying that flag. Never have I heard anything so ludicrous as UJ's being confiscated or banned from the ground, or supporters ejected for having them. Ask the guys who bring the big flags in and have their bags searched week in week out at Ibrox and at CP. Not only that, the Police fly the Union Jack from police offices on certain dates so why would they be anti-UJ? To say that is the case is completely ludicrous. Furthermore I have never been asked to remove any UJ or person with a UJ for that reason alone, nor have I ever heard of such an incident taking place. I wasn't involved in removal of the flag, but that was undertaken (as are all flag and supporter removals) by stewards with the assistance of the police.

Secondly, saying the police were "unhelpful, negative and unfriendly" is another complete exaggaration by the RST, nothing short of embarassing to the good name of Rangers FC. Saying such things will only reflect badly on the club. What the RST clearly doesn't understand is that policing 60,000 people - many of whom including Rangers fans well under the influence of alcohol and technically in the ground or the area of the ground illegally - is not easy, and police must remain in control. If that means crowd control or doing something you might not particularly agree with at the time, that's what it means. Fans must appreciate that and get on with it.
When the time is right, we will have a bit of interaction and banter with the crowd, as I did when a lad asked me to check his ticket and I gave him a bit of banter telling him it was for the Celtic end. As for unhelpful, the girl in crutches coming up the stair to the top tier right on half time that I shielded from the crowd spilling down the way for their pies might - just might - disagree with you on that one too.

Thirdly, if the RST is to be taken seriously, their claim that "The treatment of Rangers fans - ordinary, working men and women whose only crime is a love of their team - is a disgrace" should be spoken in the same breath as relentless criticism of the actions of some of our own support who are no angels. A few particular things caught my eye on Sunday.

The reek of alcohol from the queuing fans at CP nearly gave me the boke. If by now they don't know that it is illegal to drink alcohol on your bus on the way to the game, to be drunk at a designated sporting event, to enter or attempt to enter the stadium whilst drunk they bloody well should.

The eejit who attempted to get in 3 times despite having been refused for being too drunk eventually getting carted away and trying to headbutt 2 cops is a complete disgrace to the Rangers jersey he was wearing.

The usual "**** the Pope", "fenian #OOPS#s" chants are 'tolerated' in society, but shouting to Nakamura "Ya ****in wee Chinese #OOPS#", or "UVF UVF" is again something that Rangers fans should be above. As is shouting "Jack McConnell's wife's a whore". It's not funny, it's not big and it's not clever. We really should be above such shampooe. And yes all of those are chants I heard and had to deal with throughout Sunday.

Not only that, the toilets in the upper tier were smashed up again either at or some time before Half Time. That one never made the media or any of the Rangers web forums, did it?

If the Trust was to condemn such scumbag behaviour amongst our own support before criticising the way our support is treated by others, then their argument might be that bit more valid. Until then it will appear blinkered and be seen as the lips moving but nothing being heard.

The Trust are just a small part of it. The fans behaving in the dignified manner that a Rangers fan should.... ie

- Behaving yourself and doing what you are asked to by police or stewards, without swearing all kinds of obscenities back at them
- Not breaking the law by turning up half cut to get into the game
- Not singing/shouting racist, sectarian or paramilitary chants
- Not smashing up a stadium, just because it's Celtic's.

If the Trust were to come out with their own 'acceptable behaviour' guide, and everyone adhered to it, maybe we would see where the problems really lie. Until then, the Rangers support only has the minority who continue to spoil things for the rest to blame, and the RST cannot expect to be taken seriously.

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better than the last time?

OfTheSpeed23
15.03.2007, 15:38
Seriously. Stop posting all this crap please. I've asked politely and you ignored that, now I'm telling you.

Stop it or I'll make sure you get banned from the site altogether.

juliotyr1887
15.03.2007, 18:40
Stop it or I'll make sure you get banned from the site altogether.


u can´t judge me!

OfTheSpeed23
15.03.2007, 20:43
I ain't judging you, sunshine.

I'm just telling you you're being an unneccesay pain the ass.

Chris1887
17.03.2007, 18:34
Love the Gers ;)

juliotyr1887
20.03.2007, 08:40
hey Bhoys :D

check out... youtube clips... the UEFA do it too hahaha...

rangers1873
20.03.2007, 11:16
Haha UEFA don't check it's the Celtic fans who go crying to them

''Oh UEFA they are singing big bad songs boo hoo''

NO SURRENDER

juliotyr1887
20.03.2007, 21:08
bad luck :D

Swansea
21.06.2007, 22:11
Big Jock Knew is bullshit.

The hunscum talk that the legendary Jock Stein (ex manager celtic) has known about a paedophile skandal.
bla bla bla... it´s always if the fascist come together and talk about their litte penis problem

Lack of knowledge is nothing to be blamed for, but spreading someone elses explanation as your own opinion just shows what a remote-controlled kind of character you are...

http://celticfc.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?p=13376#13376

rangers1873
24.06.2007, 09:56
Lack of knowledge is nothing to be blamed for, but spreading someone elses explanation as your own opinion just shows what a remote-controlled kind of character you are...

http://celticfc.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?p=13376#13376

Ach mate he's just a Scum Pauli fan in denial :D

Dr. Spielchen
28.06.2007, 15:35
Lack of knowledge is nothing to be blamed for, but spreading someone elses explanation as your own opinion just shows what a remote-controlled kind of character you are...

http://celticfc.forumcircle.com/viewtopic.php?p=13376#13376
...kann mir einer erklären was Big Jock Knew bedeutet? ich finde dafür keine Übersetzung... bzw. will die hässlichen Rangers Fans aus dem HSV Forum nicht fragen...

Ah, lookie who´s fouling his own nest... :mad: :D
Thanks again for sharing information, keep up the excellent work!